Mild spoilers ahead. More troublingly, it's lengthy as fuck.
EDIT: If you take the time to read, I've explicitly mentioned I'll be scoring this a 9 like the disgusting fanboy I am. But make no mistake, 6 is what I think it deserves. I say this beforehand, since otherwise you might waste *our* time going directly to my profile on seeing the score and flaming me for 'fishing'.
I wonder when it became natural for Gintama to have a score of 9 or above.
Every time a new season is announced, a few one-liners of "X being displaced from the top 10", or some acerbic remarks about how ... ridiculous one franchise having so many entries in the top list is are made, and then the matter is dropped.
I'm perfectly aware that ratings on this site are dogshit, with trolls and boosters running rampant in equal measure. Still, Erased and Re;Zero received significant backlash on their sudden rise. Gintama was just...ignored.
Maybe it's due to the non-confrontational fanbase. They just view haters as just being pitiable; more of a "your loss" viewpoint rather than a "fuck you" one. Trolls need triggered people to feed on, after all.
Said fanbase is also loyal as fuck. Fierce doesn't even begin to cover it. Most of the current reviews are 10/10s claiming Gintama to be the best thing since sliced bread.
And I agree completely. Gintama was my first 10, my only 10, and my absolute no 1 when it comes to anime currently. But the reviews don't address the elephant in the room, a point which I'm coming to.
This season is shit.
Which is harsh, admittedly. It stands head-and-shoulders above other battle series (shounen isn't really a genre, nor is it the only one utilizing plot armour). But Gintama's standard of comparison is itself, and this season pales in comparison to the others.
Shifting tones from comedic to tension-filled is hard for any creator. Period. Forcing an audience to believe that characters surviving comic explosions can die at the hands of random mooks is a massive leap. And it is especially hard in a universe without any flashy techniques to aid the transition, like Negima or KHR.
Hayate (the manga) has gone to shit in its final arc. Konosuba, the current comedy favourite can't really function without its comedy at all.
And yet Sorachi pulled it off with aplomb. He ratcheted the intensity higher and higher with each chapter, a near-miraculous feat. Until he perhaps took it too far.
See, the SA arc was morbid. Alongside the Shogun, it was the death of Gintama's comedy, a death more hard-hitting than most characters'. Gintama basically sacrificed a part of itself to set up the drama.
FS was oppressive in its atmosphere. One bleak event after the another, culminating in the introduction of Utsuro, shown to be the strongest antagonist till date.
Rakuyo gave us mid-bosses.
In all fairness, Rakuyo is more a transition to the final arc. Plot threads involving Utsuro's identity, origin and abilities had to be resolved. Altana (foreshadowed in the Inugami arc) had to be formally introduced.
Gintama was always short on true antagonists, and defeating Utsuro in the penultimate arc would be stupidly anticlimatic (in true Gintama fashion, but that part is dead now rip). So I understand the need to have new villains.
The problem is, they were given the same serious treatment reserved for Takasugi and Utsuro. I know individual fights have a lot of potential in any battle series. Each character can show the results of their training, new special moves, new deus ex machinas (Erza cough cough) etc.
What they don't have any potential for is tension.
A monkey, a mechanical tentacle monster, and a 1/3 functioning triclops with a wildly inconsistent lightsaber could have been a heap of laughs.
But cheesy dialogues (not that cheesy, to my pleasant surprise, they were fairly unique) were to be had instead. It was more a case of 'could have been better' instead of 'bad'. Even with all concessions made for hype and one-liners and sword fights and whatever, when the bumbling trio blasted off the arc picked up significantly. Gintama is one of the rare SJ series I have read that has the ability to actually impart some tension to its battles, tension that prominently arrived parallel to Utsuro's arrival.
Forced to be honest, a score of 7.5-8 would have been behind that 10.
Then BNP came and fucked things up.
Where to begin with BNP? They're my favourite bunch of fuckwits, for starters. They are giving it their all, clearly. Which is why they're my favourite. But it cannot be denied they are fuckwits and I hate them.
It started with a mild dislike of the new glossy artstyle. Which intensified when I realised the jokes weren't really as funny as in the manga or in previous seasons (and I wasn't any less immature--comic timing is a bitch). Skipping chapters was a fine mess slightly alleviated by the execution of the SA and FS arcs.
Maybe I'm just an idiotic hardhead unwilling to adapt to change. But the 2017 season has imbibed a fervent prayer in me wishing Silver Soul is not adapted by BNP.
See, I firmly believe Gintama is a cash cow. And the fact that a well-established cash cow is not being given sufficient budget for 12 decent quality episodes is mind-boggling. It seems the executives are going for profit margins rather than profit. "They'll buy no matter what I try" is a mentality I despise whole-heartedly in creators, no matter what medium.
I'll admit that I know nothing about businesses or the anime industry. It is entirely possible I'm barking up the wrong tree. But take one look at the after battle scenes between Gintoki and Sith Lord, note the amount of flashbacks in Gintoki v Kamui and then try to tell me with a straight face that they had enough budget. Scratch enough. It felt like they had the bare minimum amount of capital required to produce 10 episodes which they stretched into 12. The fight scenes seemed surgically pruned in length. While I'm no supporter of 50-episode battles...previous seasons man, previous seasons. Even the fight scenes seem a step down from the 2011-2013 seasons, and it took a heavy toll on enjoyment, something which no other Gintama is lacking in.
Here, I'll take a minute to question why they did not utilize any static backgrounds or other filler-type shit to conserve budget. Perhaps they felt it wouldn't fit the mood, but honestly, purely serious Gintama will never ever work after SA. A fact that Sorachi realized, seeing as the SS arc is a bucketload of laughs.
Even then, the Four Devas arc had a filler prior to its first episode which consisted of redubbed OVA footage. Redubbed OVA footage, which was still heavily enjoyable. Gintama is basically shit, the least they could do is use the reputation it has built up over ten years and air some planet backgrounds to ensure better quality. Eh, if they would go so far as to skip material I'm the fool for expecting stuff like that.
All said and done, this will probably be a 9 in my list. Rating is shit anyway, bite me. But for my true, impartial thoughts on the matter, 6 is the most suited.
Tl;dr- I spent a long time writing this, the least you could do is read it. There is no obligation, but plss.
k thx bai
Alternative Titles Synonyms: Gintama (2017) Japanese: 銀魂。 Information Type: TV Episodes: 12 Status: Finished Airing Aired: Jan 9, 2017 to Mar 27, 2017 Premiered: Winter 2017 Broadcast: Mondays at 01:35 (JST) Licensors: None found, add some Studios: Bandai Namco Pictures Source: Manga Demographic: Shounen Duration: 24 min. per ep. Rating: PG-13 - Teens 13 or older Statistics Score: 8.981 (scored by 145,744 users) 1 indicates a . Ranked: #142 2 based on the top anime page. Please note that 'Not yet aired' and 'R18+' titles are excluded. Popularity: #760 Members: 314,128 Favorites: 2,727 Available AtResources | ReviewsMar 27, 2017 Mild spoilers ahead. More troublingly, it's lengthy as fuck. EDIT: If you take the time to read, I've explicitly mentioned I'll be scoring this a 9 like the disgusting fanboy I am. But make no mistake, 6 is what I think it deserves. 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Mar 28, 2017 While others may argue that this season was a dip in quality I would say the very opposite. When we talk about Gintama we mostly talk about its gag part but what I like more are the story like arcs with humor and not all gag arc which seems like a filler. This season focused on that very aspect. This season of Gintama has a nice story line with each episode explaining many plot holes like why people call Katsura zura (No it is not some plain nickname, it has meaning behind it), why did Yoshida Shouyo suddenly become his beloved students enemy and it ... Mar 27, 2017 Gintama is slowly coming to its end, sadly it isn't ending on a high note. With this season of Gintama the focus of the anime is moving towards ending its overarching story line which means each episode is more serious and focused on the action and backstory over what is in my opinion Gintama's biggest strength in the first place, Comedy. 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He could keep pushing higher, to scale up the series' finale with the power of the previous arcs. Or he could go through the lazy writing route. Sad ... Feb 28, 2017 So, what can I say about this great anime? A lot to be honest, but let's stick with the 6 points I get provided with. Story: The story at first wouldn't seem to be as big of a point in this anime since a lot of episodes aren't really "cannon" but they still are, they build up the characters so much in those episodes that they just become extremely relevant again in the actual arcs. It's great. Art: The animation in itself showed a huge improvemt since the older days which is great, and even then it the artstyle was pretty neat. Sound: Sounds and music are a ... Apr 12, 2017 Gintama review Take a seat and let’s talk about a memorable story. A story that will not be forgotten , a story that will make laugh and cry , a story that will teach about life and a story that will teach you about what is love and friends and how to value people that are close and dear to you. A story which every addicitive reader should know. Story 9/10 Have you ever saw a anime which can combine elements of comedy and drama and execute it’s concept and idea so well. The story is simple not much to say about it it depicts ... Mar 25, 2017 Isn't it weird? Loving a show that has everything, in this day and age where everyone chase after this "quality" thing. Gintama is one of those shows that when you're asked "If you could ask for a sequel of a show, what show would it be?" I don't know about you but I'll say Gintama over and over again. And really, my prayers have been answered, it's finally here alive and kicking, it feels pretty weird, amazingly good but weird. Gintama has so many ups and downs in its storyline, we all know that, it's not until you accept the flaws in an anime and love them ... Jun 2, 2020 Having now watched the main tv seasons of Gintama where do I rate this one... Firstly it's a 12 episode Arc, I think the longest in Gintama, and so there isn't much in the humour department. It also doesn't hit the emotional highs that the end of Gintama's 4th Season managed. On the other hand the graphics and backstory development are done very well. There were several characters I hated that the series managed to make me like a little by the end which was impressive. A few of the fight scenes were good and although I felt it lacked a bit of punch the drama ... Apr 13, 2017 They made this season way too short. 12 episodes is nothing to what fans are used to. We want 30-50 episode seasons with fillers and lots of laughs - not just the cliche main story arc we all knew was coming with a joke thrown in here and there. Overall this season was way too short and way too serious. If nothing else is clear about this last season it is that we are approaching the end of another great anime and they no longer have the time or no longer want to take the time to make it as fun as it was in ... Dec 25, 2017 I have to say that this is my first time walking away from a Gintama season not completely blown away by it. In fact, I would say that this was the weakest Gintama season of them all. But, because its Gintama, even though it was weak for its own standard, it still made for an entertaining anime. To be honest, I was really kind of bored with the entire first half of the season. It felt like more of the same Hack-N-Slash, Deus Ex Machina fights that most anime presents. Normally, there is significantly high quality humor in the ... Jun 14, 2017 This was a deception for me, Gintama is my favorite anime and even if this season was not "bad" it was bad in comparison to the other seasons. The 12 episode format does not suit the show at all. The story was way too fast paced so they used too many "narrator characters" who's sole purpose was to tell what is happening, why it is happening, why this character is badass, why this character is a super badass. There were also a whole lot of flashbacks and way less humor than in the other seasons. Sidenote, I didn't like the opening nor the ending for once, ... May 30, 2021 “Back then, you started walking forward with no hesitation and I couldn’t stop you because I was the same as you. Nowhere to go back to, the only way was to go forward.” - Abuto, Episode 326 (Gintama. 10) Gintama. is an enjoyable, exciting and, at times, a strange experience; especially for those who came to the overall series for the comedy as it leaves behind the usual short story format in order to tell a longer tale which brings in a couple of fan-favourite characters and gives them their time to shine. Dedicating an entire 12 episode series to this arc ... Jan 18, 2021 Are you kidding me? I think, this season is the most epic season in anime history. I love to see gintoki in battle scenes and action. yes, gintama may be a comedy-themed anime, but isn't it great to watch the stories of the characters? and they only did this in 12 episodes. Didn't all those fight scenes, sensuality and everything in 12 episodes make the anime even more spectacular? I'm sure if Gintama had been such an anime from the beginning, it would have been the number one in action anime. sorachi wants to tell us with this series "I can write a story like ... Jun 22, 2022 Top 5 Favorite Arcs Yoshiwara in Flames ep 139 - 146 Kintama ep 253 - 256 Beam Sword Style ep 262 - 264 Shogun Assassination ep 300 - 307 Sliver Soul ep 342 - 369 Favorite Episodes: 65, 119, 137, 153, 216 Through 369 Episodes and 3 Films, Gintama is a work of art by Mangaka Hideaki Sorachi. I rate the Gintama series a 9/10. It was such a great series that has really stood the test of time. I watched it during their first break right before the 2015 reboot came out. The characters were funny and memorable, the villains were really cool. The only problem I had was the gag ... Sep 9, 2019 (This review applies to the entire Gintama series.) What is Gintama about? Well, according to Gin-san: "We don't even know". But for me, Gintama is a great filler with some anime bows tucked in the middle of genius shapes. Gintama tells a story about Japan at a time when it was dominated by alien forces, the plot focuses on our four protagonists: Gintoki, Shinpachi, Kagura and Sadaharu. Now speaking of the anime, Gintama is very good indeed, all the characters have a different charisma, from their personalities to their beliefs, like our revolutionary Zura, oh my mistake, "Zura janai, Katsura da.", Dear Hasegawa-san (Madao), the whole shinsegumi ... Aug 21, 2017 First things first. My "reviews" system is explained on a blog entry. Which can be found through my profile. ------ I'm going to keep this "review" more of a opinion of Gintama's overall and then this season specific. Anyhow. What I have always loved regarding Gintama, is its content of everything. I love the comedy, its absurd, random, can be vile, dirty, sweet, anyhow, everything. Have laughed countless times in this franchise. Also the humor they have also is heavily reference based, a.k.a parodies of different anime, shows, manga, live stuff, real world, anime production and so on. Anyhow, comedy/parody side of this franchise i absolutely love. Now, 2nd ... Jun 20, 2023 I am a die-hard Gintama fan. I have watched it until now, and all of the previous seasons were 9-10/10's. They were just really good and nothing was like it. Then Gintama. rolls into my watchlist. I was expecting more of the same, and for Gintama that is a very very very good thing. All I find is Shonen battles, plot vomit, more shonen battles, plot vomit, and a lot of stories basically just handed to us. WHY?!??! Can you not take it slow? The First 200 episodes took it very very slow, with almost no plot, and it was one of the best seasons of any anime ... |